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Additional Credit Card Fee Begins in New Jersey

Consumers who use credit cards to pay for purchases may be subject to an additional 4 percent retailer fee under new plan.

 

[UPDATED: Monday, Jan. 28, 11:10 a.m.]

New Jersey residents using credit cards to pay for purchases may be digging a bit deeper into their wallets beginning Sunday, according to a report on CBSlocal.com.

The report says retailers may start adding an additional fee of up to 4 percent if a credit card is used to pay for a purchase.

WINS’ Glenn Schuck reported reaction to the new fee was swift and angry. 

According to a report from 7online.com, stores must prominently display signs saying they are charging customers for using a credit card. Debit cards are not affected by these new measures.

ABC News is also reporting retailers WalMart and Home Depot have announced they will not take part in charging the additional fees.

What's your opinion? Take our poll and let us know your thoughts in our comment stream.

  • New Jersey retailers Sunday were permitted to tack on a checkout fee of as much as 4 percent for credit card purchases. What do you think of this new fee?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • It's terrible! I won't use my credit card for purchases anymore.
        310 (87%)
    • The fee is just one more charge I'll end up paying even though I don't want to.
        38 (10%)
    • The fee is necessary because of the economy.
        5 (1%)
    Total votes: 353
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: 1010 WINS and Credit Card fees

Monica Sclafani

1:06 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

I read the linked article and many of the comments. Here are just two of the questions that were posted: Do the retailers have to post a sign that they are adding the fee? Are debit cards included? I realize that retailers are charged a fee for accepting credit cards, but shouldn't that come under the heading of "cost of doing business"? On the other hand, I guess retailers could just hike their prices up to recoup the fees charged by the credit card companies. Either way the consumer loses unless we make our purchases with "cash only".

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esther

2:22 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

I have a question- when did the legislators sneak this by us? It's a very short ride to places in new york that don't require a bridge toll- nyack for example- and we can do shopping there. I can't believe this was thought through. Maybe if enough of us walk out on businesses that charge it and seek out those who don't we can send our own message.

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Cathy Brazill

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

From what I understand (Jean Chatsky - Today's financial person) retailers do need to post a sign informing customers of the new charge when they begin to include it in your purchase and the charge does not apply to debit charges.

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Marilyn C. Potenza

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I was reading an article about this. The retailer MUST post a sign about this new charge and say exactly the percentage. If this is not posted--you need to report it.

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I'd-Rather-Be-at-63

11:47 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013

It is simple: Add a charge for the use of credit cards and I will not shop your store, with cash, debit card or credit card.

tr

1:15 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Cash and carry only. It will help defeat the NEW "Merchant of Venice".

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Henry Brezenoff

5:03 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Sorry, but that will not defeat anything. Since the merchant pays a fee for credit card use, paying cash is what the merchant will prefer. This will go the way of gas stations. Pay the "convenience fee" or find another station [store]. Frankly, I think this will backfire on merchants who do charge for credit cards. People will be more discerning in what they buy and where.

FAP

1:50 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

I just enrolled with Amazon prime, it has free two day shipping with most items. If brick and mortar raise their prices by 4% it's an incentive to shop elsewhere or online.

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Susan

2:44 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Except that for NJ residents (and other states), I believe Amazon has now agreed to charge state sales tax for online purchases.

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FAP

3:36 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Don't brick and mortar already charge taxes? What we're taking about is an extra 4% fee that brick and mortars are thinking of charging to recapture the fees the credit cards charge. Since Amazon isn't considering charging this additional fee it looks that even with taxes Amazon might have the better deal.

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Marilyn C. Potenza

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Amazon will start to charge NJ residents 6% state tax starting in July 2013. The are supposed to open a warehouse in NJ at this same time.

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XJS

11:37 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

If I buy something in NJ or NY I already pay sales tax. If I buy on amazon and I don't have to pay the CC tax, then why not use amazon?

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Frazure

9:49 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Marylin - Why will Amazon begin charging 6% when NJ sales tax is 7%? Will they be
eating 1% of the tax as a break to customers?

Steve

2:06 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

I won't stop using my card. I will just not purchase from anyone who charges extra. I never buy gas from stations that charge cash / credit prices. I usually use major gas station's that don't do that, so if you wish to charge me for using my card, prepare to lose my business.

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Pete Mock

2:35 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Steve, where do you find stations that don't charge more for credit? I have not seen one on quite some time.

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Steve

3:27 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

They are all over the place. Hess doesn't.

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John Depot

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Gas stations that don't charge more for credit cards (for now, anyway):

Wawa on New Road
Hess on Rt. 46 in Pine Brook or Hess on Rt. 46 in Mountain Lakes
Costco in Wharton off of Rt. 80

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Marilyn C. Potenza

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Hess gas stations do not charge extra for using a credit card. Hess also does not use any foreign oil. The gas sold is from america. What we need to do is become more proactive and use social media to register complaints.

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Townie

10:09 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Marilyn C. Potenza wrote that Hess only uses oil from the USA. Don't know where she got this info. See Hess' website for an overview of their worldwide operations

http://hess.com/operations/default.aspx

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Aladdin Sarsippius Sulemenagic Jackson III

12:29 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I think Marilyn is right about Hess' gasoline being 100% American. Whenever I fill up with Hess gas, my car feels heavier, acts lazier, and is much too opinionated for her own good.

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esther

8:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Pete-
plenty of stations charge just one price- Citgo, Exxon, Mobil, just to name a few.
Raceway, Delta, and some of the no names do but that gas shouldn't go in the car anyway.

LV Resident

2:06 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

I agree with FAP. Maybe should have had another choice in the poll - " Shop retailers/e-tailers that chose to not impose the fee".
I guess we'll have to see how this all pans out.

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Dan Bautista

2:09 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

List the stores you find that are charging the checkout fee.

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Jack Durschlag

2:11 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Poster Dan Bautista has a great idea: Tell us the stores you find that are charging a credit card checkout fee and we'll list them on Patch.
Nice job, Dan!

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Jackie Babic

11:06 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Really? Why not post all the merchant who accept credit cards. They already are and have been for years passing along the cost of clearing credit cards in the form of higher prices. Instead of creating a list of honest merchants and vilifying, why not chastise those who charge us the fee even if we don't use the card?

Justfacts

3:14 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

It was a court ruling that caused this. Fee does not apply to debit cards. Merchants already treat fees by credit card companies as a cost of business. Some people apparently don't know that. Now they can charge up to 4% more as a credit card fee on each transaction. But surely the merchants who do this won't be reducing the cost of their products by 4%. Any merchant who starts charging a fee should be boycotted.

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Marilyn C. Potenza

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I agree. the retailers are just as horrible as congress. I am sure that local retailers will not be charging the %. We just have to be aware when we shop. All the articles that I have read indicated that the companies must post a sign indicating the %. Hopefully, we can all read it. This is going to hurt the economy.

Steve Simpson

3:41 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

"The fee is necessary because of the economy." Huh? This is false, why even include it as an option?

Credit card companies have been able to prevent retailers from telling customers about the fees they pay; now they're able to pass that fee to customers as long as they disclose it. The fees aren't changing, they're just allowed to be passed through to the customer now. It has nothing to do with the economy and it's not a new fee.

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paul smith

3:52 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

why not a 2-4% discount when you pay cash instead?

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Henry Brezenoff

5:03 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

I find this rather humorous (nothing personal here, Paul). Exxon was the first gas station I recall that offered a discount for cash, and they were shot down by the competition for charging more to use a credit card. Its like politics; you can't win.

S.G.

4:31 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

Not all credit card companies allow merchants to pass along costs like this 4%. I found one article that addresses this, but it is a few years old: "...Every originator except for Discover forbids surcharging credit card sales, however, as MasterCard so clearly states, "A Merchant may provide a discount to its customers for cash payments." This statement holds the secret to passing credit card processing fees on to customers. The trick isn't charging customers more for using a credit card; it's charging them less for using cash....". The article goes into this in some depth, but, ultimately, it cost the consumer.

http://www.merchantcouncil.org/merchant-account/operation/pass-fee-customer.php

We cut back on our credit card use about five years ago. The best we ever did was a monthly bill for $45. Unfortunately we have been using our credit card to track medical costs, i.e. when picking up prescriptions.

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EMK

3:18 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Actually, I'm pretty sure the credit card companies allowing the merchants to do this was one of the negotiated allowances as part of some lawsuit between the two parties. Naturally it's us consumers who get screwed in the process.

Steve Becker

4:41 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

This is yet another result of the political system being up for sale. Banks contribute heavily to all pols, then literally sit in on the writing of legislation meant to curb these abuses, It's not enough they gamble recklessly with "safe" money, then cry for a bailout when they lose it, they have incrementally placed the retailers over the barrel, hiking their "handling fees" and stretching out the access period for using their own funds. Most retailers now cannot access their weekend credit receipts until Tuesday, giving banks time to use the money and profit from the interest. and then they still charge their retail clients higher fees on top of that. The retailers are not the problem here, it is the banks who profit from near-zero borrowing rates and act as loan sharks afterwards. The real kicker is they are using part of this/your money to pay off the politicians to keep it this way. You can thank Messrs. Bernanke and "money is free speech" Scalia for this abomination.

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Marilyn C. Potenza

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

We need to write our elected officals. If you are unhappy WRITE ! Email doesnt always work--Where is the hope & change????--oh, right that was in 2008--it expired in 2012.

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Cblloyd

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

And don't forget all of you that enjoy your 'free cash back' and airline miles. Who do you think pays for those? The retailers in the fees they are charged and ultimately those of us that pay cash for a purchase because a retailer has to cover the added cost of those using credit somehow.

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mkr

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Mr Becker, Love this painting of Mr. Bernanke.....thought you might appreciate it as well!
http://chrisreach.deviantart.com/#/d5rhe95

Alex C

5:21 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

This is very simple. Don't use a credit card. It's a free market, a free country. No one is forcing anyone to use credit cards. Don't use a credit card, and/or don't shop where these fees are apposed.

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Mark Ruckhaus

5:21 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

4% is a ripoff as most credit card companies are in the 2-3% range with Amex at the high end of that.

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HG

5:28 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013

If brick and mortar merchants impose this, they'll just drive more people to the internet, where credit cards are obligatory.

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Harlan Consider

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

A big mistake. This will only speed up the demise of brick and mortar retail as we know it.

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Tracy Tobin

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Use debit card, cash and Internet sites if your regular "bricks and mortar" stores charge the additional 4%. I understand that the charge has to be shown separately on your receipt according to a NYC news radio station. Don't know if they have to notify customers of the charge before accepting a credit card for payment. Return items for a full refund, to any "bricks and mortar" store that charges the 4% fee, and tell store management exactly why you are making the return and that you will shop at a competitor who does not charge the fee. It will be interesting to see if Wal-Mart, Target, Sears, Kohls, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. impose the extra charge. Wonder if Amazon and other Internet merchants have the option as well?

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L.

10:06 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

FYI If you use your debit card, your bank will charge a fee for using it. Also, all credit card companies charge business owners every time your card is swiped then they charge an additional 3-4% on top of the total, simply for the service of getting to use a credit card, It is not the business owners, its the credit card companies. Amex is the worst for a small business owner, but vi/mc and discover are nearly just as damaging. Example, in a restaurant, your card is swiped for the first amount approval ( 1st charge occurs ), customer adds a gratuity, and the card need to be approved with that total ( 2nd charge occurs ), then, the final 3-4% is charged to the business as the final amount is approved. The business owner pays 3-4% on top of the added tax and gratuity plus the 2 charges for processing the bill. How are the credit card companies getting away with that?

gail tom

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

why is it that NJ allowed this to happen to it's residents. It has been out lawed in NY and CT.

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jp1

12:54 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Agree with Gail what happened to NJ?

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esther

8:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

No surprise- Jersey continues to be corrupt and to ignore the constituency with great aplomb frequently and often.

Rich Smith

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Retailers will lose out in the long run because people paying with cash will plan more accurately before shopping and will, by virtue of the cash on hand, eliminate much of the last minute spontaneous purchases. Banks are in bad shape and this will cause pain in that industry too. Many gas stations are set up for two levels of payment already and I often wonder how many “fill ups” are changed to ten dollars when people see the cash/credit sign. It took years for payment by card to become common place. The system has been set up for card purchases by plan and this will hit business negatively in the long run. As many have said; on line buying will really take over the retail world. Local merchants and big retainers better watch their step on this one. They have much to lose.

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John Depot

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Here's the problem. Businesses, for decades now, have 'adjusted' their price model to incorporate credit card fees as part of conducting business. Prices will remain the same, and the consumer will find an extra 'fee' on their credit card receipt. This should be a boon for the businesses. It will be terrible for the consumer.

In regards to Amazon, they will begin to charge NJ state sales tax starting July 1, 2013. See NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/nyregion/amazon-to-build-distribution-centers-in-new-jersey.html

Okay, so many NJ consumers will now puff out their chests and declare that they'll just pay cash or not shop at merchants who pass along the fees. Yeah, right.

This is a safety and crime issue, too. More people will be forced to carry around large amounts of cash, making for easier, less traceable crime. Remember, with a credit card, you are not responsible for any fraud or theft that occurs with your card. With cash, you're responsible for every dollar. Credit cards also have many, many benefits ranging from percent cash-back, to extended warranties, to record keeping. They are essential tools in today's economy. Heck, I get nearly a thousand dollars cash back every year with my credit card's cash back bonus. I'd hate to give that up! And, yes, I pay my bill in full each month so there's never any interest or fees.

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John Depot

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

...continued from previous comment above...

What about big-ticket purchases? Next time you load up the cart at Costco, are you prepared to carry around $400 in cash? Are you going to remember to hit the ATM and get smacked with some fees there as well?

This only applies to credit cards, not debit cards. And I think, but can not yet confirm, that American Express and Discover are not involved in this practice. Only Visa and Master Card.

This is now a national law. 40 states are affected. Only ten states so far have banned retailers from passing along the charges. New Jersey has not, but New York has banned the fees.

Large retailers (think Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Target, etc.) have said they will not pass along the fees to consumers. This further puts the smaller businesses under pressure.

This is a win only for the banks.

Welcome to Screwedville. Population: us.

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Susan Nagel-Rees

1:43 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Dear John,
Costco is one of the most successful retailers in the US and (drum roll please). They do not accept Visa or Mastercard- why do you think this is?

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Stephanie Kennedy

3:50 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Costco only accepts AMEX because they have struck a deal with AMEX to only accept their credit card in order to keep their costs low.

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Regina

10:14 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013

Keep in mind that using a debit card is NOT a good practice. It is handing over your bank info to a stranger and if there is fraud, they have your money until the matter is cleared up. When using a credit card you do not pay disputed amounts, have fraud protection as well as insurance and replacement on some cards. You lose many of these benefits as well as the cash back bonus and if a hotel or rental car place puts a HOLD on your debit card it could cause checks to bounce. This could also happen if there is fraudulent use.

Laurie Michelson

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I just signed up with kuapay. It's a processing company. No setup fees. 2% for all cards yes including Amex and .23 cents each transaction. Customer downloads app n enters card n pays by scanning at checkout. I will call to see if this will be affected as well. Worth checking out.

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Susan Marx

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

How do we know which merchants do this and which do not.

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Green Brook Resident

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Go back to using personal checks. When merchants see their checkout lines come to a halt with people digging in wallets for cash or writing out checks they may change their minds. E-commerce with Paypal is the way to go!

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Clive

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Remember it's your money - buy only where you are pleased. The others may have the pleasure of buying it from themselves *Smiles.

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Clive

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

To HGs - comment I will just Add God bless the UPS.

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Charles R Ruebling

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

A Lose - Lose proposition in my opinion.

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Karen Spitzner

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I am skeptical about the validity of this news item. A 4% add-on is a big deal. Don't you think there would have been some discussion about such legislation in recent weeks via media other than the internet?

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longtimer66

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I read in NY it's illegal-- yet in NJ, it's fine. That says a lot. I agree with Patch showing listings of merchants who impose the fee. That way an informed consumer can make decision that works best for them.

Most of the other comments here seem right to me, too. It will drive more business to the web, and 4% seems a ripoff when Amex -highest cost provider - is less than that.

Yep, like others here, I also go a little out of my way to buy gas at stations that don't charge a 10 cent/ gallon credit card premium. And it isn't all that hard to find stations that don't charge that either- at least right now.

It really changed my buying habits to see that fee, especially when I was paying with a gas branded card- and buying that brand for years.

Used to be such cards gave you a small discount for buying the "affinity" brand... but now the discount only applies AFTER you spent $500 a month with the card. The car doesn't really use $500 a month in gas, and I prefer to use a sep card for gas (old fashioned, huh?-but easier for my record keeping )

Switched over to a "freedom" card which at least gives a discount on any brand gas certain months of year... provided you remember each cycle to sign up for the discount.

It's like they are making it ever more difficult to be a customer... and so (sadly) I'm not brand loyal anymore- silly to make loyalty cost more.

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E. Woltman

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

And these are the people that we elect to public office... another Rip-Off of your constituants.....shame on all of you.

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BMW

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

It's the result of litigation against Visa and MasterCard and those two entities agreed to the max. 4% surcharge in response. No other credit cards (like AmEx, Discover) allow the surcharge and 10 states, including NY, banned it. It does not apply to debit cards. Most major retailers have stated they won't allow surcharge. Media could've done a better job making this clear, so people aren't so upset.

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The Good Guy

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

This is a detriment to the future of having a moneyless society. This goes against all our technological advances. This is just plain stupid. Now people will take out cash and buy things with cash. And criminals will know this so there will be an increase in muggings and robberies because retailers and shoppers will be carrying more cash.

This is a way to go back to the dark ages.

Also, internet sales will suffer significantly as well. It will no longer be worth buying stuff on the internet if you have to pay an additional 4% tax on each purchase.

And, it does not cost a computer program 4% of the number amount to transfer that amount from one account to another. It's just a series of zeros and ones moving along a wire. The electrons doing this do not charge a fee. It's a way for the banks to make more money and have big profits so they can build fancy bank buildings which they don't even need any more.

In order to advance technology, the fees should be outlawed completely instead of being transferred to the shopper. Or they should do like EZPass does, charge a monthly fee for the convenience of using the credit card. Thank is more justifiable than a fee on every transaction.

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Stephanie Kennedy

9:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I understand that South Orange merchants are encouraging more customers to shop in the Town and therefore feel that the to charge an additional 4% for customers to use their credit cards, plus require them to to pay the Transit Authority Meters would do more to drive them away than invite them to shop in our lovely town.

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Susan Nagel-Rees

1:44 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Really Stephanie, when I lived in West Orange, my husband and ate ate once or twice a week at a restaurant in SO. Cash only and was mobbed every hour of every day it was open. South Orange is a great town and you should do everything you can to make sure that everyone who has the courage to open a small business should get as much support for the community as possible. Those merchants support your community, your little league teams, your PTA, etc. Pay with a check or cash or pay the extra 4%. In the end it will benefit you tremendously when you sell your home. If you do not believe me do some research

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Stephanie Kennedy

3:50 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

To Susan Nagel-Rees - I have been living in South Orange for 42 years and I love South Orange and have always supported everything in South Orange. It is just recently that many things have changed. But thank you for your note and your thoughts are appreciated.

FLResident98

10:04 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Cash on the barrel solves the problem. Get off the instant gratification train for luxery items. Use cash to purchase the item and you don't have to worry about additional fees. Credit cards are a privelege not a right.

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emiliac

10:14 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Many of us overspend when we use plasticanyway. I, like many, often run into the store for one item and come out with several bags offood.Thisjust might be the motivation needed to stick to a food budget, carry a specific amont of cash for needed items/products and not get carried away by sale prices. In my case these items are stored or go bad. If there exist a significant number of others in this category food stores sales might dip. We are considered to be a nation that wastes enough food to feed a small nation so a secondary benefit might be less waste.

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Dennis giaimo

10:40 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Where is the Governor? Get back to work in NJ. Did I hear that both NY and CT knocked this down?

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esther

8:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

The guv is too busy hugging democrats worrying about his run for guv as a stepping stone to being prez. You don't actually expect him to pay attention to New Jersey? Do you?

Geralyn Robinson

10:40 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I have been charged up to 10% for paying an invoice by credit card here in Maplewood NJ. I didn't realize there was such a charge and when I questioned it I was told it was to cover the expense of credit card fees. Guess what I don't pay by credit card anymore - they get a check.

I am a small business owner and I do accept credit cards. I don't like taking cards as yes I get charged by the credit card company for accepting them, but it is the cost of doing business. Small or large companies know that you accept cards for the convenience of the customer and if you don't accept them you may lose business.
Also as a business owner I did not hear of this change until I turned on the news last evening. I for one do not intend charging an extra fee - I think this is the most ridiculous thing I have every heard... and if the people don't stand up against this it will just keep getting worse...
As a customer I will use my debit card or cash for any purchases and avoid doing business with companies that will charge this extra fee.

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Nancy

10:42 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

One question - Where is Gov. Christie?????

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Jon Q. Public

11:37 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Why having lunch with one of his credit card exec cronies.

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KS

12:33 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Campaigning for President with his new BFFs, OBAMA and Zuckerberg.

Stephanie Kennedy

10:59 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

I am responding to a comment made by a small business owner in Maplewood (cannot find her comment) where she stated that although credit card companies charge large fees for small business companies to accept credit cards, the business does it to accommodate customers. On the other hand, I have noted that some small business in Maplewood will NOT accept personal checks, for whatever reason (I would prefer to pay by check), and will ONLY accept cash or credit cards.

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Donkey Tales

11:04 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Why should Gov CC get involved? Can't merchants recover the expense they pay for the convenience of letting us use credit cards? Should businesses subsidize convenience when the expense costs jobs and wages for the employees?

If you pay your taxes online now, doesn't your town charge a fee already? How is this different?

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The Most Interesting Man in the World

11:37 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

V/MC created a rule for government that allowed them to charge a convenience fee in order to entice them to do business this way to expand their market. This was not a government mandate, it was private business finding a way to do business with government. Good business ideas should be allowed to flourish and bad ones die without government interference.

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esther

8:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Why should Guv CC get involved? BECAUSE HE IS THE GOVERNOR WHICH MAKES HIM INVOLVED BECAUSE HIS STATE IS INVOLVED AND EVERY PERSON WITH A CREDIT CARD IS INVOLVED. If you pay your taxes on line there is a convenience fee which you can avoid by mailing an old fashioned check in an old fashioned envelope for less than 50 cents. That's why- he is supposed to represent us and protect us from unnessary fiscal interference which this charge is.

The Most Interesting Man in the World

11:08 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Visa/MC had a rule that you could not discriminate between their credit cards and any other form of payment like cash or check. The agreement was between 2 private entities doing business together, V/MC entities and the merchant. Now we have government in the middle inserting itself between the 2 willing parties making a business agreement for their mutual benefit under the guise of protecting the public interest. The net result is a new law that nobody wants, benefits no one and just creates more confusion at best. This is a prime example of and overreaching government regulators adding more laws to fix something that is not broken. The merchant benefits by taking the limits of cash in their pocket and allowing their customers to spend what they want and the card companies make money charging a fee to make the transaction possible. Why not just let businesses do business between one another and the government leave them alone to prosper or not as they see wish...

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jesscott

11:37 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

My my, all this blubbering over extra charges on your credit card. Where is the same outcry when your income taxes go up? At least on this you have options. Debit cards, on line payment vehicles like PayPal linked to your account. The list is endless. This is all a result of legislation that was meant to stick it to the credit card companies. Did it work? This is what you get when you look to government for your solutions.

Stop using credit cards, free yourself from the fee machine.........unless you live beyond your means, then your just doomed anyway.

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Gobsmacked

1:16 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Carumba! It's not that hard: "then *you're* just doomed", thanks very much.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

Jon Q. Public

11:38 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Just another reason not to spend money in this god awful state. People are screaming: buy local, spend at the shore, blah, blah, blah. I won't buy at the shore, in small stores, or anywhere else in this state. I will use my debit card as often as I can, but for large purchases, I'll go out of state.

Wish I could sell my house and get the hell out of here. Jersey Sucks!

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Joan C Graves

12:21 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Jon Q., you might want to check out the other 40 states which can also charge this fee before you move.

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Jon Q. Public

12:39 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

I don't need to. I'll go right back where I came from and should have stayed. NY

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Ridgewood Mom

4:11 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Sales taxes for your purchases will be higher in New York.

Joan C Graves

11:45 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Inventive way for the state to curb shopping - unintended, I'm sure, but that is sooooo New Jersey! Anyone want to buy a small cape, nice neighborhood, so-so schools....?

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Donkey Tales

11:49 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

So the cost of buying stuff in NJ is a sales tax of 7% and a credit card fee of 4%.

11% added to the cost. For what? Creating jobs? Helping the poor? Reducing our dependence on foreign oil? Lowering the debt?

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BellairBerdan

2:25 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

That 7% sales tax is a regressive tax so that the wealthiest don't have to pay more in income taxes. You already are paying the 4% credit card fee whether you use a credit card or not.

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Donkey Tales

2:45 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

The sales tax is a flat tax which means everyone pays the same for purchases. If you purchase more, you more. Purchase less pay less. Tax fairness! Doesn't get any fairer than that!

Of course businesses pass the current charge on to customers. With the new fee, they won't need to so they should be able to lower their prices right. Same math.

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BellairBerdan

9:49 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Sure, that sounds fair so long as you ignore the fact that the poor and middle class need to spend most of what they earn to survive. Therefore a higher percentage of their income is taxed than the wealthiest earners.

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esther

8:25 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Hear ye! Hear ye! Great point!

Susan Nagel-Rees

11:52 am on Monday, January 28, 2013

Merchants who accept credit cards already pass on this fee by adding it to the cost of eac and every product they sell. This do this with every cost, rent, utilities, etc. I is a cost of doing business. So in summation, you people who pay cash are already paying for the customer behind you in line who is getting frequent flyer miles by using his or he cc. Do you think this is fair? I frequent many businesses that are cash or check only, that is their right. I own a retail store and some of my suppliers charge me a fee for using a cc. Why should other stores have to pay more for me to be able to use a cc. I think I would make more sense to present this as a cash discount instead of a cc fee. Perception is everything. In regard to those people who think shopping online is the best way to go, look at the studies on how a small business benefits a community in so many wys

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Donkey Tales

12:21 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Susan we get that. Are retailers who now charge the new fee going to offset it with the charges that we were already paying? Of course not. Customer costs went up. Profits to merchants goes up.

I agree, discount the people who pay cash. Now that same customer can save the NEW CC fee and the old CC fee if paying cash.

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KS

12:21 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Dear Patch, I think it would appropriate and appreciated if you could post all "local" names of merchants that pass along this fee to the customer. This is such a surprise and I belive to most of us, it seems sneaky. Main stream media did not make much note of this let alone ask the consumers to weigh in.
I understand all the comments which discuss the need to use credit wisely, pay with cash, etc. But let's be honest, CC's are here to stay, they are a "SAFE" means when used properly, we don't have to carry cash, we have a means of going back on in-accurate charges, allows a means to track and segregate all spending, etc. One could argue debit cards to be the same but it's $ in / $ out and some need that 30 day cushion sometimes or the abililty to go over 30 days. I belive the retailers should have been the ones fighting back on this in the first place. The fees are high no matter who is paying, yes they have been around for ever and yes the cc companies are still making out on the deal, up-front fee, then interest on any amount not paid each month.
In reference to the stories of how some only use cash. Very proud of you and congrats on that amazing accomplishment. Now for the rest of us that may not have our homes paid for, have certain expenses that do not justify use of cash and maybe even need to lean a bit on our "good credit" to make it through some months, I say this is "BS" and the CC companies need to be responsible for making this fee realistic to all.

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The Most Interesting Man in the World

12:23 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

This is what happens when the government tries to tilt the table in one direction or another, you have unintended consequences that the politicians never seem to calculate into the equation. My opinion is that this type of government interference into private business agreements will only have negative influence on doing business in NJ.

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FourScore

1:16 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

This cannot be considered government interference since the federal court ‘removed’ a restriction on allowing merchants from passing on credit card fees to customers. Incidentally, this does not just affect NJ, as he headline implies, it’s a federal ruling and affects all states except the following ones that have specific laws against passing on these fees to consumers; California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Oklahoma and Texas.

However, it is still optional, so you can simply avoid the businesses that add this fee. You can also use a debit card and not be affected at all.

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The Most Interesting Man in the World

2:59 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

It most certainly is government interference. Before this, the credit card processor and the merchant were free to enter into an agreement for their mutual benefit. Now the government imposes a new law that dictates that you must change the terms of your agreement to allow a surcharge. 10 states have come up with their own laws to keep things as they were because they see it as anti-consumer. My point is leave businesses to make their own agreements. The real change is that the credit card companies, if you wanted to accept their cards, did not allow you to discriminate between credit cards and other forms of payment like cash or check, now the government says they cannot have that condition in their agreement. You are right in that it is optional and you probably will not see much of it.

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FourScore

7:44 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

No, it has nothing to do with the relationship between merchant and the credit card company. The surcharge always existed, but merchants were previously not allowed to pass the charge onto their customers, whereas now they are. So as a merchant, you now have the choice of whether or not to eat the charge, or hit your customers with it. It is the removal of government interference that allowed this to happen.

You can read more about it here;

http://business.time.com/2013/01/25/a-4-surcharge-for-using-a-credit-card-legal-but-not-likely/

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The Most Interesting Man in the World

10:28 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

I read the article and it was written by a novice, so I can see why you might be misinformed. Visa and MC are card associations that establish a set of rules in order to operate. As a merchant, you can either accept their agreement with their rules or not. Private business makes a private decision. It is the card associations rules that say they cannot surcharge. However, after a long and successful relationship, the government has stepped in and said this rule is unfair to businesses and creates a law that says the merchant service provider cannot impose this condition in their agreement and the merchant is now free to add a surcharge if they wish. Think about it, if the credit card processing companies allowed the merchant to surcharge from the beginning, credit cards would not nearly be as popular as they are today. If you had to pay more to use your card, you would hardly use it, but if it was the same as cash, you would use it a lot, which is why they were so successful in proliferating their use. I personally think it is not government's place to interfere with 2 willing parties entering into a private agreement they perceive as mutually beneficial. The merchant gets a customer in their store with a lot more spending power and the merchant service company makes a fee for making this possible. This system is a big part of why the USA has had a more robust economy than the rest of the world, so why have government step in and screw with a good thing.

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FourScore

9:49 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Once again… another poster who bashes another poster’s source, without providing a source of his own. Since my article was written by a ‘novice’ as you put it, why don’t you link an article from an expert who backs up what you’re saying. So far all I’ve got is an anonymous internet stranger claiming he knows what he’s talking about, and that just doesn’t cut it.

M_WO

1:28 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Why the hysterics? If a shop accepts Amex, it already can't effectively impose the additional fee (use an Amex at that shop). Big retailers won't add it because it's cheaper for them to take CC than checks and CC users spend in the range of 15% more. A very few small shops might try and add it, likely to their detriment. If your dry cleaners of bagel store does add the fee, pay them in cash or use the guy across the street. Seems to be much ado about nothing.

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Kathome

2:13 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Ahhhh.... yet another reason why I moved to the great State of Texas 6 years ago. Texas is one of the 10 who said N-O. We also do not have a State Income Tax!! Our sales tax is 6.25% and once a year we have a "Tax Free Weekend".

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Liberty

7:44 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

New Jersey does not charge sales tax on unprepared food, household paper products, medicine, and clothing. So NJ kind of has a "Tax Free Year" on those items.
New Jersey does not charge sales tax on gasoline, but gasoline is subject to a $0.145/gallon excise tax. There are 7 states with no state income tax, and 2 with a limited tax. So TX is nothing special. We will see which retailers impose the new surcharge--it is optional, not mandatory. I do 99% of my non-food shopping on-line, with sales & free shipping, there are great deals. I'm not spending money on gas to drive to NY to shop. If you buy big-ticket items in NY, don't you think there will be a hefty delivery fee for large items? I pay cash for gas and will just write checks again or use the debit card. Shop smart.

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Kathome

8:32 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Texas does NOT pay tax on medicine or unprepared food. Far less expensive to live here than Jersey. I know. I lived in Jersey for over 50 years. My property tax in NJ was 7k a year. More property in Texas and my tax is 2,100. I speak of what I know.

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Liberty

9:45 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

I don't care. I never said or implied that it was cheaper to live in NJ. It's just not a big deal that TX said N-O, it's optional, not mandatory.

Michael S Fenton

4:06 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

i will use the internet to buy things and miminize use of cards...and avoid merchants who charge that extra percentage, just as I do with purchasing gasoline. The only ones who make out on this are the banks...but 4% is way more than banks charge for the credit charge, so merchants are in effect getting up to 2% additional sales tax that they keep.

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Nancy Choffo

4:36 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

I would shop more at the stores that won't charge the fee. Either way start writing checks again and slow down the lines. I am not paying more because of the way I choose to pay for it.

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Jerome (Bud) Holzman

7:44 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

Retailers are charged a fee(percent of sale) for the use of the Credit Card service. This cost is built into the cost of goods by the retailer. Thus the cash buyer is already paying for a service that is not received! This is why some retailers do not provide credit card purchases, so they can have competitive pricing. We cannot win on this!

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Jon Q. Public

8:17 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013

What this comes down to is closely monitoring how and where we spend. The wife is notorious for impulse purchases on our day trips out. Yes, the money is there for her to spend, but I'll be damned if I'm going to walk into a "shop", let her pay the exorbitant prices, and then get slammed again because I pay with a credit card. I am being penalized for not carrying cash, paying with a debit card, which I seldom do, or by check. The shop owner wants you to pay cash so they don't have to report it, and they don't care if you use a credit card because you will pay the fee. For sale: 3 br/2 bath colonial; horrible schools; exorbitant taxes; continually depreciating home value. The Jersey dream.

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Frazure

9:49 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

I am of the age where I no longer use credit cards for items I can't afford. I use it when booking hotels, rental cars, flights, etc. where it becomes a necessity, but what is wrong with paying cash, writing a check or using a debit card? Using a debit card carries most of the safety features of a credit card, but it is using funds you have, not funds you are borrowing, to make a purchase.

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XJS

10:02 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Frazure as I'm sure someone stated above, some people use the credit card for the cashback or other perks. If someone is using it for that reason and paying it off monthly, they pay no interest and it's effectively the same as paying cash.

Frazure

10:36 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

XJS - fine, I understand that and agree with you, but if the increased card usage charges out weigh the cash-back rewards & perks, its just a matter of simple mathematics. Unfortunately, most people tend to use credit cards for all the wrong reasons which often results in costing them dearly or getting them into excessive debt. I have no issue with using a credit card for all the right reasons - but there's a need for caution, because banks/credit card companies stack the deck in their favor.

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Mark Paulson

2:38 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Relax. This story from the Patch seems to be causing much more anxiety than is necessary. Read the following information for a better perspective. Most stores won't be stupid to charge 4%. This would only hurt their business. http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2013/01/28/credit-card-users-brace-for-possible-checkout-fee/

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Townie

7:48 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

1. Merchants and service providers prefer cash so they can underreport sales. If this ends up pushing more cash purchases you can bet the states that are allowing the add-on fees will change their tunes. The credit card companies will gladly help with data analysis.

2. My bottom line is to patronize businesses that sell what I want, that charge reasonable prices, that accept the payment I prefer and to purchase locally when possible. Purchases are situational.

I agree with Mark Paulson (immediately above) that a chill pill is in order. Wait to see how this plays out.

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NJAtty

12:37 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013

I just wanted to quickly address the comments made about Amazon charging NJ customers sales tax beginning in July of 2013. This wasn't a decision made by Amazon. The truth is that they had no choice in the matter. The way they get around charging sales tax in certain states is that they claim to have no presence in that state. With the physical presence of a new warehouse, any argument that they are not here, have no connection to the state, and therefore don't have to charge tax disappears.

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Col. John Allen Annillo

10:49 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

LET THE FEES BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nero! As American Burns In Debt.

The DEMS are in charge of banking now (and credit). The future holds, increased fees, charges, service charges, franchise fees, user fees, convenience fees, excise fess, costs, add on, and whatever other words this corporation called Government will use but they don't want to raise taxes because of votes. Nor do they want to pass a budget as you go to Yale (jail) because it is illegal to overspend you budget.

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Gobsmacked

11:08 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

You've reached a delicate balance of incoherence and hysteria. Congratulations, "Col.".

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Alice Jameson

11:26 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

An apt and concise critique if ever I’ve read one, Sock Puppet.

badbul

7:26 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

When I find a store that charges a 4% credit card fee I will make sure I load my shopping basket to the rim with items until things are falling out of the cart. I will then bring all my items to the cash register and get rung-up. After getting my total I'll get my credit card out and play dumb about the 4% fee and then tell the cashier that I would no longer like to purchase the items because of the 4% fee and walk out without making a purchase.

Then the store manager could override the transaction and pay an employee to put all the merchandise in the shopping cart back, hopefully eating away at the 4% fee that other customers had paid.

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